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By Awang Ahmad Sah Awang Sahari
KOTA KINABALU: I am responding to the piece put up by the deputy president of Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP), Amde Sidek, in FreeMalaysiaToday days ago on issues related to SAPP - Star relations vis-a-vis negotiations for seats at the coming general election.
Although we all subscribe to one communal politics through the so-called multi racial politics, all political parties must be realistic on the issue of which party is more acceptable by the grassroots.
All opposition parties must be sincere if they are serious for a one to one fight against the Barisan Nasional. You can't go to a negotiating table and say you want 40 (out of 60) seats which by itself doesn't help much to achieve a one to one fight.
We must be practical and should be able to tell which area we are strong and which area our partners are stronger.KOTA KINABALU: I am responding to the piece put up by the deputy president of Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP), Amde Sidek, in FreeMalaysiaToday days ago on issues related to SAPP - Star relations vis-a-vis negotiations for seats at the coming general election.
Although we all subscribe to one communal politics through the so-called multi racial politics, all political parties must be realistic on the issue of which party is more acceptable by the grassroots.
All opposition parties must be sincere if they are serious for a one to one fight against the Barisan Nasional. You can't go to a negotiating table and say you want 40 (out of 60) seats which by itself doesn't help much to achieve a one to one fight.
Pakatan Rakyat's one to one formula in Semenanjung is an acute example where all parties contested in their strong areas.
PAS contested all Malay seats where there were strong, PKR in Malay, Chinese and mix areas where they were strong, while DAP contested in all Chinese areas where they were strong too.
In other words, once strong areas are identified, then in the spirit of multiracial and one to one fight, we can discuss which seat one can accommodate the other based on spirit of togetherness and not strength.
If one party adopts an approach to just name the seats they want without looking at the other's strength, we are facing problem and any discussion on one to one basis is a waste of time.
State Reform Party (Star) Sabah chairman, Dr Jeffrey Kitingan, initiated the United Borneo Alliance (UBA) because there was a need for the local parties to be united.
The issue of seat allocations doesn't arise as Star is prepared to accommodate Sabah Progressive Party (SAPP) in some Kadazandusun-Murut seats like Kadamaian, Kundasang, Melalap and Nabawan, but SAPP also wanted Matunggung, Tempasuk and Liawan.
Star is a grassroots party and we know our strong areas, hence we are only contesting in only about 32 state constituencies and still willing to go down if one to one fight could be concluded.
Finally, the 13th General Election is the last window of opportunity for change. It is not the time to prove anybody's case.
32 seats only kah? I thought dr jefrey said the other day might contest in all 60 DUN seats and all 25 MMP seats.. Which one is which..
ReplyDeleteAt first they wanted to compete 60 seats, but when nearing the general elections, they realize it's not possible.
DeleteMaybe STAR just couldn't make up their mind.
DeleteWho knows there will be changes when the election is nearer.
DeleteIt was Joe Fernandez who first wrote in mid-Feb about Star contesting in all 60 state seats and 26 parliamentary seats including Labuan. Dr J immediately denied the story. Yong Teck Lee called JF a liar. In mid-April Dr J declared that Star would contest in all 60 state seats and 26 parliamentary seats under its Plan Z. JF reported it. Yong Teck Lee suddenly fell silent. What Awang is saying is that Star is willing to come down from its extreme negotiating position of 60/26 provided the ideal of taking on the BN one-to-one can be achieved. A Chinese-led mosquito party like Sapp should not expect more than the six Chinese state seats but they have to share this with Dap.
Delete32 or 60.. up to Jeffrey to decide.
DeleteGood luck to STAR.
Deletejangan terlalu tamakkan kerusi. beri peluang kepada parti lain pula.
Delete32 or 60.. deposit for sure akan hilang... for STAR.
DeleteSAPP also has KDMs leaders so it should be given more setas as SAPP has been around longer than the 6-monthy old STAR. STAR Sabah may never be allowed by SPR to contest in the GE, who knows.. as STAR President is in Kuching and he is the one who gives out Letter of Appointment (Watikah Calon) for the GE.. If Taib buys him over how? Think.
ReplyDeleteI thought SAPP and Star are discussing this seat allocation matter between themselves, maybe Star decided to compete 32 seats and the rest of the 28 seats for SAPP and PKR to divide.
DeleteIt seems like SAPP and STAR has a hard time cooperating with each other.
DeleteBukan mudah untuk SAPP dan STAR bekerjasama sedangkan mereka ada matklamat yang berbeza untuk dicapai.
DeletePersaingan antara pambangkang cuma memberi peluang lebih baik kepada BN terus menang.
DeleteSAPP dan STAR ,masing2 ada agenda sendiri mau jadi pemimpin di Sabah, manalah boleh bersatu hati..ini berita baik untuk BN.
DeleteThat is very good a statement from Awang Sah but does his bos dr jeffrey kitingan share the same view ? Dr jeffrey is fickle-minded, can change stand from one hour to the next. Susah lah like this...
ReplyDeletekan JK ni raja katak? memanglah tiada pendirian..sekejap ini terus nanti tukar lagi...dulu cakap mahu tanding semua kerusi sekarang 32 saja...mungkin besok kurang lagi..siapa tahu kan..
DeleteWith a fickle mind like Jeff, I don't think he share the same view as Awang.
DeletenO WAY SAPP will do better than Star or even PKR if it stands in Kadamaian. What more if SAPP puts up a Chinese candidate for Kadamaian in the person of one Agnes Liew, the younger sister of Datuk VK Liew, president of LDP.
ReplyDeleteStill remember Batu Sapi By-Election? PKR ask Yong Teck Lee not to contest, but Yong Teck Lee would not budge. In the end, split votes for both parties, luckily he did not lose deposit. Might not be so lucky next round.
DeleteSAPP parti yang lemah...parti nyamuk saja...selepas pru13 tiada perwakilan/calon SAPP yang akan duduk di kerusi Parlimen atau DUN sabah..sekarang adalah sebab menang atas tiket BN dulu...
DeleteSAPP is a very stubborn party. Semua pun mau. In fact i think Yong Teck Lee is a liability for SAPP.
DeleteSAPP memberi imej kurang baik kepada rakyat terutama Yong sebagai KM dulu.
DeleteSAPP memang memberi imej yang buruk, tak dapat bayangkan bagaimana jika mereka yang menjadi pemerintah..tambah kucar-kacir Sabah.
DeleteHaha...all this bickerings sounds stupid when u cant even be sure of winnings. Concerned about seats or getting back our rights?? Priority mahhh...
ReplyDeleteItulah masalahnya, parti-parti ini betul mahu memperjuangkan hak rakyat ataupun hanya mementingkan kuasa sahaja?
Deletesudah pasti pembangkang hanya mahu berkuasa...
Deletefrom the way i see it, none of the opposition parties are actually fighting for the people rights. They are like tin kosong. If they are really sincere and serious about fighting for people rights, they should cooperate with one another to avoid 3 or 4 corner fights.
DeleteSekarang ini, memang lah pembangkang jandi yang macam2.. semua boleh buat..semua boleh tukar, jika menang...macam tin kosong..langsung tiada bunyi terus.
DeleteSebelum ini kata akan bertanding 60 kerusi, sekarang tukar lagi matlamat. Mungkin mereka takut tidak mampu bertanding begitu banyak kerusi, nanti hilang deposit banyak rugi.
ReplyDeleteatau tu Star takut sama tu SAPP dan PR...tulah 32 saja diorang mahu tanding...dulu bukan main cakap besar si JK...betul2 tiada pendirian..
DeleteStar tau kalau tanding byk pun tetap kalah.. jadi tanding sikit ja lah. kurang jg kos..
DeletePerhaps there is something they are uncertain about.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Awang had discussed this with Jeff before making this statement.
DeleteDoes it seem impossible for them to reach their preliminary goal?
ReplyDeleteIt is up to them to decide.
Deleteif they lose its because of their selfishness to cooperate.
DeleteBaik jika sanggup usaha dan kerjasama.
DeleteIts all up to the people to decide where their goal can be achieve.
DeleteI guess only STAR can respond to that.
ReplyDeleteI can perceive uncertainty of winning.
ReplyDeleteJeffry Kitingan has no come very far in politics so far.. there must be reasons for this.. Why is it groups of talented people kept on leaving him behind? There must be something to this man that the outside world doesn't know.. Will someone please enlighten us... Thanks very much readers and boggers...
ReplyDeleteGood question. I have always wondered the same too.
Delete32 DUN saja kah? Parlimen?
ReplyDeletedulu JK cakap Star mahu tanding 60 DUN dan 26 parlimen termasuk labuan...kenapa kurang sekarang? takut sudahkah?
ReplyDeleteTIDAK!cuma mungkin STAR sedang mengumpul maklumat dan menguji pendapat umum.pandanglah dalam-dalam.tetap**
DeleteMy guess is Jeff always make statement without consulting the other members of STAR.
DeleteThis shows how inconsistent STAR is.Would we want a leader who can't make up his mind??
DeleteSTAR sudah mencapai persetujuan dengan parti2 pembangkang yang lain kah?
DeleteMaknanya JK ini tiada pendirian.Sentiasa berubah2 keputusan.
DeleteFinal decision? No last minute changes?
ReplyDeleteSTAR dan SAPP belum boleh get along..macam mana mahu bekerjasama nanti?
ReplyDeletesilap-silap sapp dan star ni akan saling belawan nanti.
Deleteall pure guess. Nobody knows who is right wrong. Jef is accused of being a frog, fickle minded, BN's agent, ad infinitum. But when he was in YS, he helped many graduates and told them to go back to Kg to teach the local to do business. In politics, it is impossible to like and love everybody and to please everyone. Do you think BN is not fickle minded? Sekejap bilang ok dan later tarik balik. The only difference is BN has got the money and political tools in place to shut dissenting voices. It looks as though BN is united but do you think so?
ReplyDeleteJeffrey & STAR masih baru, bukan mudah untuk rakyat memberi undian tanpa sebarang hasil perjuangannya.
ReplyDeleteya, berbanding parti lain star ni baru lagi, jadi susah mau cakap jugalah.
Deletelebih2 lagi bila ketuanya yang asyik lompat parti bila tidak diberikan jawatan presiden.. nampak sangat gila kuasa..
DeleteSejauh STAR boleh pregi di PRU akan datang?
ReplyDeleteSTAR yang baru saja melebarkan sayap di Sabah sepatutnya tidak perlu bertanding pada pilihanraya umum kali ini.. kehadiran mereka hanya menjadi penghalang kepada pembangkang2 Sabah yang lain..
DeleteHarapkan yang positif untuk politik di Sabah. Rakyat harus menalai siapakah yang betul-betul membawa Sabah keluar dari golongan termiskin.
ReplyDeletekalau dinilai usaha kedua2 belah pihak setakat ini, hanya BN Saja yang berusaha membawa keluar rakyat Sabah dari kepompong kemiskinan.. sedangkan SAPP yang sebelum ini pernah memerintah negeri ini pun gagal membasmi kemiskinan malah membankrapkan rakyat Sabah..
DeleteIni kalilah apa mau takut itu BN kebenaran pasti kita Sabahan mesti berani menuntut hak hak yang merika bolot selama ini.
ReplyDeletebiarlah setiap pengundi tentukan pilihan mereka masing-masing.
Deleteyang kami takut ialah, selepas PRU giliran pembangkang pula membolot hak2 rakyat Sabah.. maklumlah sudah lama ditinggalkan dalam kelaparan.. sekali diberikan peluang, habis licin Sabah dia makan..
Deletesebelum ini kata nak tanding 60 kerusi? kenapa tiba2 tukar pula?
ReplyDeletetunggu dan lihat sajalah. apa yang diorang cakap ni boleh berubah-ubah.
ReplyDeletejika berterusan pembangkang di Sabah tidak akan bersatu sampailah PRU tiba.
ReplyDeleteJangan tersalah undi..pembangkang tidak akan dapat memberi kehidupan yang senang.
ReplyDeletePembangkang memang tidak akan bersatu hati...sebab semua gila kuasa.
ReplyDeleteTerpulang dengan STAR nanti mahu bertanding beberapa kerusi pun.
ReplyDeleteKalau kita lihat pun memang STAR lebih hebat berbanding dengan SAPP. Tapi rasanya STAR tidak sehebat BN lagi. Maka ini bermakna STAR pasti akan tumbang nanti.
ReplyDeleteTeruskan menilai setiap apa yang diperjuangkan oleh parti-parti yang ada di Sabah ini.
ReplyDelete32 kerusi saja. Mampukan STAR bertanding di kerusi tersebut. Nampaknya STAR seperti tidak memberikan peluang kepada PR untuk bertanding 1 lawan 1 nanti. Tidak sama macam SAPP yang seperti ayam basah tunduk kepada PR.
ReplyDeletedulu cakap lain, sekarang cakap lain.. ini adalah petanda bahawa pembangkang sabah sedang dalam situasi kelam kabut..
ReplyDeletebukan takut BN.. tapi takut pembangkang lebih teruk dari BN.. setakat ini pun pembangkang tidaklah cemerlang sangat mentadbir 4 buah negeri..
ReplyDeletedulu cakap 60 kerusi, sekarang cakap 32 kerusi..
ReplyDelete